Schizotypal Forum

Hi everyone,

New to this form- happy it exists. I have episodes where I feel like my thoughts are on "free exhibit" or being broadcasted to those I am with, like they will do something that directly reflects that they know what I am thinking/feeling. It keeps happening and I am becoming convinced it is real. I've read about spiritual enlightenment/higher consciousness and it could be that that. It makes sense to me that a higher plane of reality would being able to communicate via thought waves rather than actual speech. When my mood is good, I can broadcast happy thoughts and interactions go well. Lately the opposite has been true. I should probably take more antipsychotic and that would resolve things, but at that same time if this is spiritual growth/enlightenment, i don't want to squash it out. Sometimes I feel like "success" in the rat-race part of life requires things my brain and spirit are least interested in.

Enough about me, what do people think about thought broadcasting/telepathy ?

Personally, I don't believe in telepathy. I think thought-broadcasting is a psychotic symptom, something made up by your mind.

On the other hand, I thinkit's perfectly natural that you can sense someone else's mood, and that your mood (and therefore thoughts) can affect someone else.

jgreekas wrote: but at that same time if this is spiritual growth/enlightenment, i don't want to squash it out.

I really think you should be careful dwelling on this too much. Do you firmly believe in telepathy, or are you not quite sure?

My perception of the collective unconscious is that it is a large pool of water, we all swim in and contribute to, with our thoughts, feelings, sensations, etc. We congregate in different areas of this ocean of thought, but we are all connected. Our thoughts and preoccupations feed a stream that runs into the greater collective. When we are close to others, particularly in an intellectual way, and start feeding the same streams, we aren't "reading their minds" broadcasting our thoughts to them, etc...We are simply "on the same page" to an astonishing degree. I guess another analogy would be we are swarming with them, like flocks of starlings, who don't have to "read thoughts", but act of "their own" volition. By virtue of the fact that the term "their own" becomes amorphous in this arrangement, it simply amplifies the idea that the skull isn't a discreet capsule, but a semi permeable membrane, and much of what happens on a mental level is osmotic, in nature.

I don't think it serves the schizotaxic and schizophrenic community well to dismiss parapsychology. Hallucination, telepathy and concrete reality exist on a weird continuum, that's poorly understood by science. Giving moral validation to every perceived communication with the dead, invisible acquaintances, etc.. is also not a great idea. The mystic swims in the same waters that psychotics are prone to drown in. The pyschiatric community has to somehow navigate through some difficult epistemological waters, here.

Personally I would NEVER give a very clear "voice in my head" any control or influence over my life. On a mystical level, it's akin to breaking and entering the sanctuaries we create within our own minds. Ignore these voices with extreme prejudice.

agitprop wrote:My perception of the collective unconscious is that it is a large pool of water, we all swim in and contribute to, with our thoughts, feelings, sensations, etc. We congregate in different areas of this ocean of thought, but we are all connected. Our thoughts and preoccupations feed a stream that runs into the greater collective. When we are close to others, particularly in an intellectual way, and start feeding the same streams, we aren't "reading their minds" broadcasting our thoughts to them, etc...We are simply "on the same page" to an astonishing degree. I guess another analogy would be we are swarming with them, like flocks of starlings, who don't have to "read thoughts", but act of "their own" volition. By virtue of the fact that the term "their own" becomes amorphous in this arrangement, it simply amplifies the idea that the skull isn't a discreet capsule, but a semi permeable membrane, and much of what happens on a mental level is osmotic, in nature.

What a beautiful way of putting it

I often have this intense feeling that someone somewhere can hear what I'm thiking, like they suddenly tuned in. It's very scary and really difficult to stop thinking. I'm not sure if it's real but I like to stay on the safe side.

It's possible that it can happen, we're capable of more than we know.

I once thought, in the heat of my strongest breakdowns, that I could hear the thoughts or the dreams of people around me. At first my parents, and siblings and then others farther and farther away I imagined I had a connection to. Now I don't believe in telepathy. Even if thoughts (information on some level) escaped the brain and somehow got captured by another brain, they would have to both translate the message somehow without any idea of who you are, what feelings you associate with what words how you translate your own thoughts and handle the stream of consciousness witch is no where near coherent even for "normal" people. When people think, don't they think in big gobs of information about broad subjects and don't they 'choose' specifics and break those down into smaller and smaller chunks until they translate that thought into something the ego or executive control system of their minds can actualize and then, finally, if they want to communicate that thought they have to retranslate it into something for their audience? What magician or mentalist or magic man could possibly pick up any kind of meaningfull information from those initial gobs of thought? If it meant anything to them, they would translate it into something different from what I would. I guess this idea helps me keep the paranoia down. Convincing myself that thought broadcasting/telepathy is impossible [even when I don't belive in the impossible] is all that keeps me safe sometimes.

Saying that, i think it is common schizotypal assumption that one can "smell" the disposition of others. To me, most people smell like cut flowers, are in a way baseline and mean no harm generally, then I get weird smells like cut grass or rosebushes with fertalizer and it's always somebody I don't exactly trust, once in a rare while I smell grabage or foul rot, and even though I don't believe in "evil" i can't help hoping that the person that emits this smell is a horrid human being who has gone too long down the wrong road. I can't stop "smelling" it even though I know its just me and my weird head. Still- i have noticed that the ones who smell bad tend to BE predatory and seem to always prove me right.

My sons and I do this constantly. We can even be talking about one thing and go onto something else completely out of text...lol..It happens sometimes with people I work with too...I do think sometimes I can read other people minds though. Even on instant messages...

At the time of my psychosis I did believe in telepathy. I was connecting with squarrels on the backyard and was reading minds of other people in a bus. I don't believe in telepathy anymore. Rather kind on observation on how things may go. Often things happen in patterns because human behavior is very similar for the primitive senses and that way predictable. I believe that so called sixth sense is just rather this very sensitive primitive observation of surroundings. Same might go with saying same words at the same time, it has happened to me a lot. Plus most never count how many times they do not say things at the same time or do not sense things. So when it happens it feels odd and amazing.

At some point I thought that I can sense someone die or have accident and that if I tell about it they wont believe me but it wont happen, and if I dont tell, I had known it but it would happen and I'd be responsible because I didn't tell anyone. Then I began to think how many times I don't know when something happens to someone. Kind of turning it upside-down. This is my way to protect myself. The thoughts still come but I know it is just silliness.
I do believe there is much that we still can't understand, like all kinds of body chemicals. I think communication has much to do with that as well. And 90% of communication is non-verbal. So all little face movements and things like that can also make you kind of relate to someone else, or make you feel them to be the worst enemy.

Riganna

I think most people don't approach other people and tell them what they see. Schizotypals such as myself often tell other people the immediate insights they have on others, perhaps we really do see something, but more likely than not I think people are so disturbed by this rare event they convince themselves the insights must be true, like people reading a forutune cookie.

I would like to add this - I have never been diagnosed with schizophrenia but I am sure that people do have psychic ability’s and am sure the vast majority of thoughts go unheard - personally I would recommend spirit release therapy as I’m sure that some of you have mediumship capabilities that are untrained or unwanted. I've tried spirit release and found it to be very beneficial. It may not solve the whole problem but I’m sure that it will lesson the load.
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