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Schizotypals and politics

Postby Vecis on Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:17 am

I want to know what are Shizotypal attidude to politics? I have changed may political thoughts very often. I have mixed liberalism, centrism, nationalism, internationalism, terrorism in my head various times. At High School after US invasion in Iraq I was so very shocked of this that started to took interests of ideology of Alqaida and O. B. Laden (please don't report me to CIA!), I wrote an science work on this subject and gained acclaim. I also was found of socialism at that time and believed that capitalism was generally bad. Now when I went to University I became less rebellious, I had read many books about terrorism and socialism which made judge those things more critically. When in 2008. Russia started the big mess in Georgia I was again very angry of this (Russia is my neighbor country) I started to criticize Russia and support NATO. Same happens in Israel wars where I have even more cognitive dilemma- I have relatives there, when in 2006. Israel entered Lebanon I supported anti-Israeli resistance but in 2008. Christmas when Israel attacked Gaza I supported Israel. There were time when I was very critical of Jewish policy then after reading lot of books about Jews and writing essays about them I started to like them.

Now when Global Economical Crisis has hit my country so hard that we have to cut pays and pensions for everyone and we cannot finance healthcare, security and even prisons have money problems I started to became so Anarchy minded that I no longer generally believe in any of those political movements because they all are not perfect solutions to worlds problems and have deceived and killed millions. So I am on constant political rollercoaster, at least I read books about this matter which makes my mind clearer. I read books about terrorism, US diplomacy, Russian Diplomacy, Stalinism, Zionism, Nationalism and now want read something useful about Anarchism.

And I apologize to those who could be hurt by past love for Alqaida, I supported not because I liked the horrific 9/11 attacks, but because I watched the US actions us unjust and evil and thought that Bin Laden had some point. Right now I still think that an large portions of US international actions could be called as least as mistakes which bought problems to everyone and US itself. Right now I read Noam Chomsky book Failed States.

What are your political views are they always changing like mine or they always the same. I knew a man who believed the man must be consequent all his live and he believes he is social conservative since he was born. He started to hate me when he find out that I am not a stone pole like him he thinks that I am an evil person :lol:.
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Re: Schizotypals and politics

Postby Ecco on Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:11 pm

I became a anarchist about a year ago as well.

In my teens I was a supporter of communism in Russia and Africa.

I generally dislike major parties, when they always advocate war, so I vote Greens or the Socialist Alliance.
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Re: Schizotypals and politics

Postby mysteryteacher on Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:22 pm

I never undertood anarchy...what do Anarchist beleive?
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Re: Schizotypals and politics

Postby MGMT on Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:56 pm

Anarchism is a political theory that aims to create a society which is without political, economic or social hierarchies. Anarchists maintain that anarchy, the absence of rulers, is a viable form of social system and so work for the maximisation of individual liberty and social equality. They see the goals of liberty and equality as mutually self-supporting.

There are many different forms of anarchism, there's even a capitalistic anarchism...

I too find anarchism the most interesting and sympathetic form of policy, but, living in a capitalist/neo-liberal (and I don't mean the American kind of liberalism) society, I find it problematic to call myself an anarchist.
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Re: Schizotypals and politics

Postby mysteryteacher on Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:13 am

In the eighties, at least in England. Anarchists were always depicted as agressors, or unruley people. In the sense that they didnt obey rules. The way you describe it sounds more like communism.
I beleive for any society to function, there has to be a code, or defined laws. I cant really see how a society like that could function without some kind of structure.
The problem with man/woman and his/her nature is that, too many want to be leaders, too many dont want to obey rules and too many are corrupt. With those odds, I dont see how any kind of government can be effective.
Portugal was run under a dictatorship until 1974. In some respects the dictatorship had its advantages, economically and as regards to education. never-the -less it failed.
Personaly I find that know matter what political ideals or structures the political parties yeild to, when they gain power they all tend to dance to the same tune.
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Re: Schizotypals and politics

Postby Vecis on Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:19 am

mysteryteacher wrote:In the eighties, at least in England. Anarchists were always depicted as agressors, or unruley people. In the sense that they didnt obey rules. The way you describe it sounds more like communism.
I beleive for any society to function, there has to be a code, or defined laws. I cant really see how a society like that could function without some kind of structure.
The problem with man/woman and his/her nature is that, too many want to be leaders, too many dont want to obey rules and too many are corrupt. With those odds, I dont see how any kind of government can be effective.
Portugal was run under a dictatorship until 1974. In some respects the dictatorship had its advantages, economically and as regards to education. never-the -less it failed.
Personaly I find that know matter what political ideals or structures the political parties yeild to, when they gain power they all tend to dance to the same tune.


True Anarchism has nothing to do with Communism. Communism only brings new rules and oppression. Ever heard of Gulags? As for other your arguments are right, but it all show that the state is not perfect because its always being ruled by corrupt peopole and swindlers. And because the state its based on so many institutions which requires tax payers money its bound to fail when it runs out of it. Latvia after 18 years of independence are on brink of budget fall down and will be unable to function as an western type state. This was because of corrupt and incompetent politicians who made the whole nation to live under credit slavery and now were forced to pay billions of dollars for International Currency Fund in next decades. But the US and Russia who is depended on same thing- money is forced to wage wars in Middle East and Caucasus to survive. If Russia would suddenly be unable to export its resources and oil prices will fall to the bottom the Russia could surely fail. The same thing could happen to US. The whole Western Civilization is living on dept and its main virtue is to swindle other peopole. Because of this the whole Global Western Civilization are bound to fail altogether sooner and later. We need to abolish the state as an large conglomerate which cannot stand still forever and split it small foundations no larger than average county in Texas in order to survive. Check the Failed States survey list and see how many states are failed and are close to failure. A failure on a global scale could bring a big disaster to mankind.
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Re: Schizotypals and politics

Postby hopingforanew on Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:51 pm

Governments are set up to create a norm and keep everything some what stable. Hierarchy is required to spread all the work around so the government can function properly.
Unfortunately, people are involved, so the norm is usually something that no one is happy with and the hierarchy is always corrupt. Once a government is set up, people do very foolish things to perpetuate it for their own interests and disregard what is of greatest importance.

monkey killing monkey killing monkey
over pieces of the ground
silly monkeys give them thumbs
they make a club
and beat their brother down
how they survive so misguided is a mystery
repugnant, dismal creature who would squander
the ability to live, to die, and have a conscience

So sad
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Re: Schizotypals and politics

Postby schizotypes on Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:07 pm

My political aspirations are more on a local level where they don't delve into my private life so much. I have strong conservative views that usually fall in line with the American Republican party but my views also tend to lean toward the lesser known conservative views of the Federalists of whom are making a comeback into American politics. One thing I want to be all about though is trying to get us people with this disorder the help we need.
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